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Missed the May 1, 2025 meeting? You will find a replay here.
Erosion Informational Meeting Was Not Posted via TownSq 2025 Calendar
The May 1st Erosion Meeting did not appear on the calendar, nor was it sent with immediate notification to members. Everything else is published with immediate notification to members. Why?
Evolution of the WLB Erosion Report & Next Steps During the 2022 Board's Tenure
November 15, 2022 Board Meeting Agenda
Included Erosion Mitigation Report & Next Steps...
November 15, 2022 Board Meeting Minutes
Please look at page 4 of the minutes for the WLB report discussion.
December 20, 2022 Board Meeting Agenda
Included Erosion Mitigation Report & Next Steps...
December 20, 2022 Board Meeting Minutes
Please look at page 1 of the minutes for the WLB report discussion.
Erosion Mitigation Presentation by ECR HOA 2022 Board President
Background on ECR HOA 2022 Board of Directors' approach and decision from December 20, 2022.
December 20, 2022 Board Meeting Minutes
Please look at page 4 of the minutes for the WLB report discussion.
Erosion Mitigation
Step 1 - Completed 2021 Board's Study - DONE
Step 2 - Prioritize Areas to Develop Mitigation Plans - DONE
Step 3 - 2023 Review Plans With Members - DONE
Step 4 - 2023 Execute
2023-Board Memorial Monument
This was removed from the channels and deposited by the park. It remains there as a reminder of the waste. This should have been backfilled for erosion mitigation measures as the '22 Board and WLB planned.
Fast Forward to 2025 and Current Status
Feb 24, 2025 - Video Demonstrating That the Top-Down Approach is Not Being Used
Wasting $10s of thousands of dollars yearly cleaning channels and removing sediment instead of backfilling on the spot as the '22 Board, Santa Rita Landscaping, and WLB planned.
March 20, 2025 Board Meeting Erosion Agenda Item
The board is discussing what it has decided to do with erosion mitigation.
2025 WLB Erosion Report (Part 1) Referenced
Everything is a priority again.
2005 - ECR WLB Final Report.pptx2025 WLB Erosion Report (Part 2)
Here's what you missed.
QUESTION
Option 1: WLB made a recommendation to the 2022 Board on December 20, 2022, with Priority Zones 1 and 2 (as shown below).
Mitigation strategies will be tested, monitored, and validated for future course of action.
Otherwise, we will change our approach.
Option 2: The 2025 board disregarded the original WLB plan (Priority Zones 1 and 2) and allocated more funds to dictate how WLB should prioritize areas and mitigation approaches for all 27 Areas. While WLB does not oppose the approach, WLB is not leading with best practices.
Well... Which is it, option 1 or option 2?
Option 1 is in the Best Interest of our HOA
Step 1 - Completed 2021 Board's Study - DONE
Step 2 - Prioritize Areas to Develop Mitigation Plans - DONE
Step 3 - 2023 Review Plans With Members - DONE
Step 4 - 2023 Execute
April 29, 2025 Video Showing Erosion Mitigation Efforts are Underway Without Evidence of Board Approval
It was discovered that the board has already started working on erosion mitigation projects with the landscapers without informing the community of the plan and its cost. Our landscapers are not trained to execute this work.
2025-05-01 Erosion Informational Meeting
It was discovered that the board had already begun working on erosion mitigation projects with the landscapers without informing the community of the plan and its associated costs.
Furthermore, the board is instructing the engineering company on what it wants to do and soliciting the engineering firm's opinion. It should be the other way around. Otherwise, why did we hire them?
Here are some of the most important spots from the meeting recording:
https://rumble.com/v6svw0j-2025-05-01-erosion-info-meeting.html?start=109 - The engineer discusses how he didn't do any work with boards prior to 2025. Indeed, previous boards were useless. 😵💫
Problem - The engineer was instructed not to prioritize areas but rather to treat everything as a one-year priority. This is not wise.
https://rumble.com/v6svw0j-2025-05-01-erosion-info-meeting.html?start=1194 - We asked John for his opinion on what we have done. Started working in January 2025 and asked John to visit on March 11, 2025. "Does this look like what you expect? Not to put words in your mouth..."
https://rumble.com/v6svw0j-2025-05-01-erosion-info-meeting.html?start=1478 - We need more permanent solutions to the things we are doing to redirect the water to the end of the channels. (Sound familiar?) Important. Lots of misleading statements.
https://rumble.com/v6svw0j-2025-05-01-erosion-info-meeting.html?start=2127 - Who will you use to do the erosion mitigation work, and are they qualified? They are using the same group for doing minor work. 😵💫
https://rumble.com/v6svw0j-2025-05-01-erosion-info-meeting.html?start=2292 - Who is liable for the work that is being conducted for any errors made? Non-answer. "I'm not going to be liable for providing suggestions." Therefore, his nod means nothing. (VERY IMPORTANT!!!)
https://rumble.com/v6svw0j-2025-05-01-erosion-info-meeting.html?start=2593 - So who is qualified to do the work? Cleaning channels no. When building channels, you need to have knowledge. (VERY IMPORTANT!!!)
https://rumble.com/v6svw0j-2025-05-01-erosion-info-meeting.html?start=2999 - If you change water flow, you should communicate with the county. Are you? Interesting response...
https://rumble.com/v6svw0j-2025-05-01-erosion-info-meeting.html?start=3083 - The original design explained... Really good education.
https://rumble.com/v6svw0j-2025-05-01-erosion-info-meeting.html?start=3202 - About changing the flow of the water - This makes no sense... The engineer already described this. This comment creates confusion and misinformation.
https://rumble.com/v6svw0j-2025-05-01-erosion-info-meeting.html?start=3255 - If the wattles had been maintained, would things be different? [This is where successive boards should have done better.]
https://rumble.com/v6svw0j-2025-05-01-erosion-info-meeting.html?start=3314 - I didn't get an answer on liability. Plus, you are currently installing new channels in locations different from where the original natural swale was. You are disrupting the natural flow... Important comment on liability. Need to find the original plan.
https://rumble.com/v6svw0j-2025-05-01-erosion-info-meeting.html?start=3502 - Consideration to slow the water flow out of the upper basins. [The answer is not accurate... The engineer had discussed during a tour with the committee in December 2021 (those present can validate, as all basins were assessed) and later in 2022. However, this was not addressed in the assessment nor mitigation strategies.]
Board Keeping Members in the Dark - About Erosion Mitigation
2025 Board Issued No-Bid, Billed per person/per hour Contract to Landscapers for Erosion Mitigation Projects
In essence, the board is spending money on major vs minor annual cleanup and band-aid projects near the channels (bottom), instead of addressing the issue from the top down.
The '22 Board Handed the WLB Report to '23, '24, and '25 Boards
All decided to do their own thing...
Nothing was done according to the plan that we received from the engineering company. The 2025 Board informed the engineering company of our plans. They asked for their opinions on our current board's plans. (No salesperson will say no to a customer.)
Erosion Exists - Use Areas 1 & 2 as test sites
Start from the top by replacing the failed natural swale with shotcrete channels (not rocks, which will allow runoff water to continue creating headcuts and erosion) with a single or multiple channels based on the volume of water and the height of the hill. We should also replace some of the failed wattles. This will resolve the issues in areas 1 & 2 if done by professionals, NOT LANDSCAPERS.
Video of Priority Zone 1 for Erosion Mitigation on 08-16-25
Priority 1 Zone - Old Arena (South end only)
Video of Priority Zones 1 and 2 for Erosion Mitigation
on 12-26-25
Priority 1 Zone - Old Arena
Priority 2 Zone - Running Roses
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